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		<title>Hand Jobs for Jeebus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve more or less been staying away from politics until after the national conventions because right now the political cycle is simply a morass of various messages and screeds being floated as test balloons. The real campaigning won&#8217;t start until mid-September.
But Sunday, I awoke to read this story and had to do a double-take:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class=intro>I&#8217;ve more or less been staying away from politics until after the national conventions because right now the political cycle is simply a morass of various messages and screeds being floated as test balloons. The real campaigning won&#8217;t start until mid-September.</p>
<p>But Sunday, I awoke to read <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080817/pl_nm/usa_politics_faith_dc;_ylt=AlVqki3uqrYQ3BVyH5gzhkKs0NUE">this story</a> and had to do a double-take:</p>
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<p class=quote-title>Obama, McCain vie to win religious votes</p>
<p> LAKE FOREST, California (Reuters) &#8211; Barack Obama cited his youthful experimentation with drugs and John McCain noted his failed first marriage as their greatest moral failings on Saturday at a forum on faith that both U.S. presidential candidates used to appeal to religious voters.</p>
<p>Democrat Obama and Republican McCain met briefly on stage between their respective appearances at the forum hosted by evangelical pastor Rick Warren, an opportunity for both candidates to reach out to religious voters who will be a key voting bloc in the November election.
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<p>Words fail me.</p>
<p>And a paraphrased headline in the USAToday Op/Ed section pretty much says it all: &#8220;The president is not the Vicar of Saddleback Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor is he the Pope, an Imam, Rabbi, or any other peddler of snake oil, bankrupt mysticism, Voo-Doo, or delusional mumbo-jumbo. You wanna give your god a hand job? Go right ahead. But don&#8217;t ask the president to do it for you.</p>
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		<title>The Declaration, the &#8220;Creator,&#8221; and &#8220;Nature&#8217;s God&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Previously I took some time to look at the Declaration of Independence and its status as a legal, binding document for America. In briefly addressing Jefferson&#8217;s use of &#8220;the Creator&#8221; and &#8220;Nature&#8217;s God&#8221; in the Declaration, I wrote this:

Yet the Declaration’s language of &#8220;Nature’s God&#8221; and the &#8220;Creator&#8221;&#8212;tenuously religious terms of 18th Century Deists, skeptical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class=intro>Previously I took some time to look at <a href="http://blog.themadmanspeaks.com/religion/political-history-lesson/">the <i>Declaration of Independence</i> and its status as a legal, binding document for America</a>. In briefly addressing Jefferson&#8217;s use of &#8220;the Creator&#8221; and &#8220;Nature&#8217;s God&#8221; in the <i>Declaration</i>, I wrote this:</p>
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<p>Yet the <i>Declaration</i>’s language of &#8220;Nature’s God&#8221; and the &#8220;Creator&#8221;&#8212;tenuously religious terms of 18th Century Deists, skeptical of religion and the Judeo-Christian God&#8212;are nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution. Instead we find prohibitions. Article VI mandates that &#8220;no religious test&#8221; shall be required to hold public office, and the First Amendment prohibits government from taking any official action with respect to religion, or prohibiting the free exercise, thereof. From these prohibitions, Jefferson’s wall of separation between church and state is clearly visible, and the Judeo-Christian God (or any god, for that matter) are forever shut out of our Constitution.</p>
<p>Thus, we have an inherently godless Constitution, irrevocably committed to a purely secular form of government. And the idea of a Christian Nation becomes little more than the wishful thinking of religious-minded power-mongers and mealy-mouthed ministers seeking to expand the scope of their influence beyond their congregation&#8212;a concept that is utterly and completely at odds with the core principles at the heart of our guarantees of life, liberty, and property.
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<p>Having said that, this morning I am presented with <a href="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/09/back-beginning/">this bit of letter-to-the-editor insanity</a>:</p>
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<p>[<i>Referring to Jefferson's use of "the Creator" and "Nature's God"</i>]</p>
<p>It seem that in the past 30 to 50 years, there are those who deny [these words]. There are those who say that America is not a Godly nation but a secular one. This is what is taught in the schools right in town there today. Well, nothing could be further from the truth. The above makes it clear that the soul of our nation is founded in &#8220;Creation&#8221;, that that soul has a &#8220;Creator&#8221; and not an evolution. Unalienable&#8221; settles it. That means &#8220;God given&#8221;. And therein lies the rub. If our rights come from God, they cannot be taken by government. If they come from evolution and thus man, a government of men can dictate them totally.
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<p>To start, I could easily illustrate the lack of reasoning behind the letter writer&#8217;s argument and ask if it is only within the last 30 years or the last 50 years that the idea of a purely secular state has been advanced. Either way, the idea of a purely secular state has been around for much longer than even 50 years. In fact, the idea of a secular state has been around since the Founding.</p>
<p>Next, one is left to wonder how the letter writer gets from &#8220;Creator&#8221; to &#8220;Creation&#8221; and the refutation of evolution. That is truly a stunning piece of mental gymnastics.</p>
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<p>The &#8230; statement of rights is unique in the history of men. Individual liberty with God given personal rights. Where did that come from?
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<p>Is the statement of rights in the <i>Declaration of Independence</i>&#8212;the statement that &#8220;we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness&#8221;&#8212;unique? No, not at all.</p>
<p>In his <i>Second Treatise on Civil Government</i>, published in 1690, John Locke engages in an extensive discussion on the concepts later reflected, verbatim, in the <i>Declaration of Independence</i>.</p>
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<p>And &#8217;tis not without reason, that he seeks out, and is willing to joyn in Society with others who are already united, or have a mind to unite for the mutual <i>Preservation</i> of their Lives, Liberties, and Estates, which I call by the general name, <i>Property</i>.</p>
<p class=reference>Locke, J. <i>The Second Treatise of Civil Government</i>, Chap. IX, <i>On the Ends of Political Society and Government</i>, &sect; 123, l. 13-17.
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<p>The philosophical intent of the use of &#8220;Creator&#8221; is not an affirmation of the Christian God, nor of any god for that matter. If we look back to Locke&#8217;s <i>Treatise</i>&#8212;for it was Locke&#8217;s reasoning that informed Jefferson and the other Founders&#8212;we find the idea of the Christian God as having any claim over the civil society to be completely refuted. Society and society&#8217;s laws are the product of our logic and reason in light of our self-directed interests. The intent of the usage of the term &#8220;Creator&#8221; is to state that the rights we possess are inherent and inalienable by virtue of our very existence, regardless of whether we are created by the Judeo-Christian God, some other god, or by cosmic happenstance.</p>
<p>Thus, the existence of a god is utterly irrelevant to the discussion and our rights exist regardless of how we came to be. If we are the creation of the Christian God, or if it is somehow proven that no god exists at all and we are the creations of little green men from another galaxy, or if we sprouted, <i>sui generis</i>, from the primordial ooze, the proposition equally stands that our rights to &#8220;Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness&#8221; are, and remain, inalienable by our very existence.</p>
<p>In the end, the language of the <i>Declaration</i> is largely pointless. The <i>Declaration of Independence</i> does not provide any law or legally bind us as a society. What forms our laws, guarantees our rights, and serves as the basis from which our government may act is the U.S. Constitution and the laws enacted thereby.</p>
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<p class=reference>Locke, J. (2005). <i>Two treatises of government</i>. Laslett, P., ed. New York: Cambridge University Press.</p>
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		<title>Political History Lesson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some inexplicable reason, more and more frequently I have been seeing reference to the Declaration of Independence as some sort of evidence that America is a Christian nation. What better day than the 4th of July to address this document and its historical role in our government.
Contrary to popular belief, the Declaration of Independence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class=intro>For some inexplicable reason, more and more frequently I have been seeing reference to the <i>Declaration of Independence</i> as some sort of evidence that America is a Christian nation. What better day than the 4th of July to address this document and its historical role in our government.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, the <i>Declaration of Independence</i> has absolutely no legal weight in American law. Our law is founded, first and foremost, on the U.S. Constitution. This is clearly articulated in the Constitution, in Article VI, in what is known as &#8220;the supremacy clause.&#8221;</p>
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<p>[2] This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
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<p>So where does the <i>Declaration of Independence</i> stand? The <i>Declaration of Independence</i> was drafted in 1776. It is a document that lists the grievances of the colonists in America who were tired of British rule that imposed upon them the taxes of the British crown but provided them with no representation in British Parliament or say in how their lives were governed.</p>
<p>Thomas Jefferson, having studied John Locke, an English philosopher and social contract theorist, used Locke&#8217;s own words in crafting the <i>Declaration of Independence</i>. The primary rationale and reasoning that Jefferson drew upon was Locke&#8217;s justification for a people to sever their bonds with their government, dissolve the political order, and restructure it anew.</p>
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<p>The Reason why Men enter into Society, is the preservation of their Property; and the end why they chuse and authorize a Legislative, is, that there may be Laws made, and Rules set as Guards and Fences to the Properties of all the Members of the Society, to limit the Power, and moderate the Dominion of every Part and Member of the Society. For since it can never be supposed to be the Will of the Society, that the Legislative should have a Power to destroy that, which every one designs to secure, by entering into Society, and for which the People submitted themselves to the Legislators of their own making; whenever the <i>Legislators endeavour to take away, and destroy the Property of the People</i>, or to reduce them to Slavery under Arbitrary Power, they put themselves into a state of War with the People . . . . Whensoever therefore the <i>Legislative</i> shall transgress this fundamental Rule of Society; and either Ambition, Fear, Folly, or Corruption, <i>endeavour to grasp</i> themselves, <i>or put into the hands of any other an Absolute Power</i> over the Lives, Liberties, and Estates of the People; By this Breach of Trust they <i>forfeit their Power</i>, . . . and it devolves to the People, who have a Right to resume their original Liberty, and, by the Establishment of a new Legislative (such that they shall think fit) provide for their own Safety and Security, which is the end for which they are in Society.</p>
<p class=reference>Locke, J. <i>The Second Treatise of Civil Government</i>, Chap. XIX, <i>Of the Dissolution of Government</i>, &sect; 222.
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<p>And thus, from Jefferson, we have this:</p>
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<p>But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. &#8212; Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
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<p>And it was at this point that the rebellion in the American colonies was officially undertaken.</p>
<p>The Revolutionary War lasted until 1781 with the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. Following this, the official end of the war was not achieved until the Treaty of Paris in 1783. There was then the failed attempt to establish a government under the <i>Articles of Confederation</i>. In 1787, delegates from 12 of the 13 states (R.I. did not send a delegate) met to draft what ultimately became the U.S. Constitution. After much debate, the U.S. Constitution was finally ratified by the states in 1789.</p>
<p>The <i>Declaration of Independence</i> is the landmark document that marks America&#8217;s severance of British rule. It&#8217;s clear, strong language reflects the conviction and resolve that each of the signers had in ensuring their own Life, Liberty, and Property. But the <i>Declaration of Independence</i> is not the law of the land in the United States and does nothing to establish religious (Christian) roots as the foundation of our government.</p>
<p>The <i>Declaration</i>&#8217;s guarantees of &#8220;Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness,&#8221; are not secured by the <i>Declaration</i> itself. And while the words &#8220;Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness&#8221; do not appear verbatim in the U.S. Constitution, they are clearly embodied in all of our constitutional guarantees. The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution has as its purpose:</p>
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<li>
<p class=list>to form a more perfect Union</p>
<li>
<p class=list>establish Justice</p>
<li>
<p class=list>ensure domestic Tranquility</p>
<li>
<p class=list>provide for the common defence</p>
<li>
<p class=list>promote the general Welfare</p>
<li>
<p class=list>secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity
</ul>
<p>&#8220;Life&#8221; is secured through the establishment of justice and providing for our common defense, and &#8220;Liberty&#8221; is called out explicitly. The &#8220;Pursuit of Happiness&#8221; is a bit more complicated, for how does one guarantee a right to pursue happiness?</p>
<p>Generally understood, the pursuit of happiness is best represented in our ability to enjoy the fruits of our labor and our liberty. We are free to make our own decisions about how to pursue our existence, and to make for ourselves our own home, profession, and domestic life. Our existence, our home, our profession, our domestic life, and our right to such, are the embodiment of our &#8220;Estates.&#8221; It is through this line of reasoning that the right of &#8220;Pursuit of Happiness&#8221; becomes a right to our &#8220;Estates,&#8221; or as Locke concludes, that &#8220;which I call by the general Name, <i>Property</i>.&#8221; (Locke, Chap. IX, &sect; 123, l.17)</p>
<p>&#8220;Property&#8221; is thereby secured through the establishment of justice, providing for domestic tranquility, common defense, and the general welfare. It is this approach that gives us the language of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, guaranteeing to all citizens the rights of &#8220;life, liberty, and property.&#8221;</p>
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<p class=quote-title>Amendment V</p>
<p>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of <b>life, liberty, or property</b>, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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<p>These same guarantees are again reiterated in the language of the 14th Amendment.</p>
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<p class=quote-title>Amendment XIV</p>
<p>Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of <b>life, liberty, or property</b>, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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<p>Yet the <i>Declaration</i>&#8217;s language of &#8220;Nature&#8217;s God&#8221; and the &#8220;Creator&#8221;&#8212;tenuously religious terms of 18th Century Deists, skeptical of religion and the Judeo-Christian God&#8212;are nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution. Instead we find prohibitions. Article VI mandates that &#8220;no religious test&#8221; shall be required to hold public office, and the First Amendment prohibits government from taking any official action with respect to religion, or prohibiting the free exercise, thereof. From these prohibitions, Jefferson&#8217;s wall of separation between church and state is clearly visible, and the Judeo-Christian God (or any god, for that matter) are forever shut out of our Constitution.</p>
<p>Thus, we have an inherently godless Constitution, irrevocably committed to a purely secular form of government. And the idea of a Christian Nation becomes little more than the wishful thinking of religious-minded power-mongers and mealy-mouthed ministers seeking to expand the scope of their influence beyond their congregation&#8212;a concept that is utterly and completely at odds with the core principles at the heart of our guarantees of life, liberty, and property.</p>
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<p class=reference>Dershowitz, A. (2003). <i>America declares independence</i>. Hoboken, NJ: John Wiley &#038; Sons.</p>
<p class=reference>Kramnick, I., Moore, R.L. (2005). <i>The Godless Constitution: A moral defense of the secular state</i>. New York: W.W. Morton &#038; Co.</p>
<p class=reference>Locke, J. (2005). <i>Two treatises of government</i>. Laslett, P., ed. New York: Cambridge University Press.</p>
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